By Anonymous AuxBeacon News Contributors
[Editor’s Note: We received multiple comments and a contact submission alerting us to yet another Civil Air Patrol crash. It appears this Civil Air Patrol New York Wing plane was conducting cadet orientation flights. We are all relieved that the cadets were not more seriously injured. Thank you all for the contribution that will be added to the listing.]
The aircraft experienced a loss of directional control and subsequent runway excursion at Geneseo Airport (D52), Geneseo, New York. The airplane came to rest inverted, sustaining substantial damage, and the three occupants onboard received unspecified injuries.
Federal investigators are looking into the plane crash that occurred Friday during preparations for this weekend’s 2018 Geneseo Airshow.
Three people, including two teenagers, were hurt when a single-engine plane flipped over.
The crash left a single engine Cessna 182T [N291CP] wrecked and upside down in between the grass runway and taxiway at the Geneseo Airport.
It was a plane from the Civil Air Patrol, which is like an aviation-themed version of the Boy Scouts.
The 14 and 15-year-old C.A.P. cadets on board got out with bumps and bruises but the 65-year-old pilot suffered a broken back.
He’s reported in stable condition after they were all taken to Strong Memorial Hospital. Emergency crews got to the scene within about one minute and found they’d all gotten themselves out of the plane.
NTSB stated it was Pilot Error… “The Civil Air Patrol PAO will be jive talkin’ about a “quick thinking pilot” in these early stages of the investigation, but later the FAA and NTSB may come back with a failure to preflight or some other PILOT ERROR.”
Recently, CAP was trying to convince FAA that it could investigate their own incidents and save the FAA the trouble of all of the reporting that the public can review. Something needs to be done. Cut off funding and use private contractors, and Air Guard, Coast Guard, for search and rescue. They also could using some of the funds to expand. EAA Young Eagles program to promote aviation to youths.
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2019/04/cessna-182t-skylane-operated-by-civil.html
This soft-field crash reminded my Uncle [redacted] of the fatal Civil Air Patrol accident that happened at White Pigeon Airport on the 22nd of March 2003. You can get the NTSB report, but try this link to see the original article in The Hawkeye newspaper.
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One other thing that I would point out is how difficult it would be for a new cadet or senior member to ever learn about this accident because of how the news articles and reports have been removed from public view.
As a popular flight instructor who really got around in Civil Air Patrol, my friend [first name redacted] told me that many CAP pilots prematurely ejaculate and prematurely depart ground effect before getting baby up to speed (Vx or Vy) when leaving her rough playing field.
She says that CAP pilots should not be ‘too eager’ to climb out of ground effect before accelerating to sufficient climb airspeed (Vx or Vy), as this may result in the body being unable to ascend further, even with full power applied. She says that she requires her eager male students to slow down and learn the feel of control pressures, visual clues, body responses.
I’ve been in and out of D52 with her and there are no obstacles on her departure legs. That day it was a hot, hot 31°C. She figures the pilot let the airplane climb higher than 25% the length of wingspan before he fully got it up above the true Vx. There was no reason to climb out at Vx, Vy would have been much more fun for all involved.
That’s what she said.
In this sad post, your “Anonymous AuxBeacon News Contributors” stated that a 65 year old pilot crashed a Civil Air Patrol Cessna 182 with cadets on board at Geneseo Air Show in New York. The author looks to have grabbed this story from WHEC and given it to AuxBeacon so this story is TRUE and not fake news.
These people hate Civil Air Patrol so much they are using Satanic symbols to curse the people and the airplanes.
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[Editor: This is pretty creepy stuff and we need time to think about if and how we will present this.]
I know your people have some twisted crush (is it a bromance or do you have female staff?) on Jeff O’Hara for his outspoken position against Morrill Worchester Wreath. This is why I am surprised you have not echoed Mr. O’Hara’s eager-beaver CT share of the NHQ/Safety and DO video report from the 6th of July the week before this accident happened. What’s up? Why you not share?
[Admin: Your comment is approved. The editors will allow the readership to address the aviation and command qualifications and motivation of Lt Col Jeff O’Hara, CAP.]
“This just in – reposting here an all hands for widest dissemination per NHQ/DO. I find much in here to agree with regarding mutual accountability in little things, and avoiding the ‘Normalization of Deviance,’” wrote Jeff O’Hara.
“Good morning Commanders and Staff. Maj Gen Smith asked us to share this very important video offered by AOPA:
It is a message we have all probably heard before of a “rogue” general aviation pilot who flew outside the rules and the capabilities of the aircraft, with catastrophic results.
The very sad part about this, as with so many mishaps we see, is that it was preventable if someone had spoken up. As you watch the video, you will see statements, e-mails, and other evidence that this pilot’s fellow aviators and peers knew about his “rogue” tendencies and no one stepped up to say or do anything about it. There was talk behind the scenes, but no one made the effort to stop him.
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“You’re not a jerk or a traitor to the ‘club’ if you are stepping in to stop behavior that could impact a life,” concluded Jeff O’Hara in his intro.
Cat got your fauxbeacon fingers?
The pilot, 65-year-old Timothy Sheffer, of Rush NY, flew the small plane off the runway but it had problems ascending, causing it to crash and flip over.
https://www.whec.com/news/geneseo-airport-plane-crash/4992656/
Deborah,
You are correct. The Boy Scout comment is not a good reflection of CAP. Is there a better term that can be used for an organization that protects pedophiles, has no due process, destroys any opposition, and wastes tax payer dollars?
The NTSB and FAA haven’t concluded this investigation, but the CAP is already spinning false tales to the media. The CAP is averaging a major plane crash every 3 months. “Rare”… the facts state otherwise. The New York Wing PAO is part of the problem by sugar coating unsafe actions.
“Quick-thinking pilot helped save cadets after Geneseo plane crash.”
“According to the public affairs officer for the New York Wing of Civil Air Patrol, airplane crashes are extremely rare no matter the state or location, and fatal ones even more so.”
“It was a plane from the Civil Air Patrol, which is like an aviation-themed version of the Boy Scouts.”
Seriously??? Boy Scouts?? This is not a good description of the CAP I devoted many years of my life to. Since when do Boy Scouts go searching for plane crashes??
Another opportunity for the CAP to hoodwink the media like they tried to do with the LaGrange and Deatsville crashes.
The Civil Air Patrol PAO will be jive talkin’ about a “quick thinking pilot” in these early stages of the investigation, but later the FAA and NTSB may come back with a failure to preflight or some other PILOT ERROR.
Is a Civil Air Patrol pilot really a hero in a situation that he created? Was the pilot’s name released?
“CAP Talk | Operations | Emergency Services & Operations | Topic: Quick-thinking pilot helped save cadets after Geneseo plane crash”
You called it!!